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Breaking Free from Survival Mode with Faith-Driven Transformation Expert, Adam Kasix

• Becca Powers / Adam Kasix • Season 1 • Episode 75

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What if the life you’ve always dreamed of is just one step away?

In this powerful episode, Adam Kasix joins Becca to share his incredible journey—from struggling with addiction and feeling trapped in a life that wasn’t his own to redefining his purpose and helping others do the same. Adam reveals the power of “Define, Learn, Do” and how shifting your mindset can be the catalyst for real transformation. If you’ve ever felt stuck or disconnected from your dreams, this conversation is your wake-up call.

It’s time to stop waiting and start living. Press play now and take the step!

Key Moments You Won't Want to Miss:

  • Adam’s Breaking Point & Transformation
    Adam opens up about his past struggles with addiction, losing his family, and feeling trapped in a life that wasn’t his. Through mentorship and mindset shifts, he discovered a new path forward—one built on purpose, resilience, and the courage to change.
  •  The Power of Define, Learn, Do
    Adam introduces his transformational framework, explaining how clearly defining what you want, learning from those ahead of you, and taking intentional action is the formula for personal success.
  • From Survival Mode to Thriving
    Becca and Adam discuss how many people operate in “survival mode,” disconnected from their dreams. Adam challenges listeners to rethink their mindset and take ownership of their future.

About Adam

Adam Kasix is a transformational expert who helps faith-driven individuals turn adversity into purpose. With a unique fusion of awareness and intention, he empowers others to break free from self-sabotage, eliminate people-pleasing, and gain clarity in their calling. His journey—from IV drug addiction and losing his family to thriving despite combat-related PTSD (12 years, U.S. Army)—was the subject of a documentary. Adam has spoken to thousands, from students to Fortune 500 teams, including the U.S. Army and American Dream University.

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Becca Powers: right, listeners, welcome to the empowered half hour. We are here in 2025. I can't believe it. And I am with one of my brand builders group friends, Adam Kasich, and he specializes in helping people go really from like their worst, most traumatic state up into their full potential. His story.

Is absolutely awesome. And I was gonna just, I paused for a second 'cause Adam, I was gonna share a little bit, but I'd rather you share, so I'm just gonna welcome you to the show. Welcome to the Empowered Half Hour. 

Adam Kasix: Hey, I am very excited to be here. Thank you. Yes. 

Becca Powers: So I just wanna dive into it. All right.

Can we do that? Can we just go in let's, 

Adam Kasix: toe dippers and there's divers and I'm a diver. 

Becca Powers: Because I was reading your, bio and stuff as, we are preparing for this and that's why I paused because I wanted to share something with you because you have like the one liners we were talking about, but I was like, you know what?

I'm not even going to attempt it. I'm just going to let Adam do it. So tell us a little bit about your background. So you are really, helping people on their personal transformation journey. And, from what I gather. You have seen the darker side of things and you have now seen the lighter side of things and now that you have crossed that bridge, so to speak.

It feels like, in what I've read, that you really feel a calling to help people transition, like cross that bridge too. Would that be fair? 

Adam Kasix: It's fair and yet even understated because it's more of a conviction that will not let me go. And I teasingly refer to it as a blessing and a curse only because of that factor.

I, it's not a choice for me. 

Becca Powers: Yeah, it's an obsession. I like for me and my work. It's like, I was like, oh, maybe I'll just, you know, take a month off. There's no taking off. you just keep going. It's there when I go to sleep. It's there when I wake up in the morning. So I totally understand, but let's get into your backstory a little bit.

How did you. get to this point where you're so convicted to help others transform. 

Adam Kasix: I like to saythat I am a born dreamer that was raised blue collar. And that's because. all the movies that we've ever seen about Thelma and Louise. And we hear the stories of Brad Pitt being born in middle America, Mississippi or Missouri, I think it was.

And he takes the car out to California to go to become, you know, to LA for the dreams, that whole idea. I was born as one of those people, the one of those souls, but I was plucked right into the center of hard hat, busted knuckle, hardworking. Detroit, and that's my family. That's my parents. I'm proud of what built it's, that attitude is never far away from my delivery.

 and also my heart, my passion. That's part of that, diligence. But 

Becca Powers: yeah. And you have like a built-in grit when you're 

Adam Kasix: It is, there's no doubt I was in the city until I was, uh. Four in the city proper. And then I was in and out half the time at my, all my family was still there, even though we lived six miles outside the city limits until I graduated high school.

So know that world a little bit. My mom and dad though raised in it and raised me as such. And that leads to like what happens when that dreamer, that starry eyed soul. is raised by hammers and nails, right? Because like, that's how I was, that's how they knew to raise. And I don't necessarily mean physical abuse.

I want to be clear on that. I did not have any of that as a kid. I got spanked a handful of times, but I don't consider it abuse. So when I look, I can see, okay, I go into nursing because they're like, Hey, what do you want to do when you're 14, 15, 16? I'm like, dude, I want to play defense for the Detroit Red Wings.

That's what I want to do. And they're like, yeah, but this, that doesn't work for these kind of, our kind of people over here. So I need you to wake up and go get a real job. And so instead of playing, like for the Detroit Red Wings hockey team, I'm over here slinging. Pizzas for their sponsorship of Little Caesars pizza, like it was crazy.

Right? some of that's in the book that's for down the road. But the bottom line was that I ended up going into nursing. I got really good. I was really good in school very easily. It was nothing for me to get A's. It was just because good memoryI can attach real quick to what I hear.

And so I went and did that. And within a couple of years, I found myself completely out of sorts, miserable, Feeling a desperation that I was stuck in a place that I might die in, and it was the worst possible thing ever. But by that point, I had a wife and a child, and essentially what happened was I found my, I believed that I was checkmated by life.

And so what did I do? I reverted back to some prior patterns of being promiscuous, especially from my days in the army when I had gone in the army right after high school. And I know some of this feels hodgepodge, but. The idea was that I was stuck in a place where I felt like I didn't belong and I had no one around me to show me anything different about what was happening and that I could change things if I wanted to change things, that I could change things, even that little simple idea was so I had never heard anything like that before.

So I fell into the sex. And then from there, I, as a nurse, I fell into the drugs to numb the betrayal of my wife and kid who I loved dearly, and I was betraying everything about what I believed. And so that began the path of a 4 year spiral into IV drug addiction, losing my family, losing my 2 kids by that point.

And then shortly after that was. things that turned around, but essentially I wasted my twenties because of a really bad perception and no mindset help to show me anything different. 

Becca Powers: Damn. So I ended up in that spot. Share a little bit, with you of my story, because I think that, uh. It's just, it's so, so wild that you're on the show because of the synchronicity, right?

So my story is a little different, but there's this thread of the dreamer in it, right? And so I had a really unique experience where I was born Midwest to, from Indiana and my parents were full time musicians when I was born. So I was built, born into the dream. And I got to see them, play music and dance and sing and guitars and bonfires and bongos and just that expression of when someone's in line to who they truly are and then freaking, I would say, like, that societal conditioning happened.

They had two kids. They. Started abandoning their gigs and started playing less and less. And by the time I was in high school, college, they had all bought all about stopped playing music. And I had saw their depression set in stronger and stronger and stronger. And then they, got addicted to prescription drugs.

My mom passed away when she was 46. I'm 23. I was 23 at the time. And then my dad passed away when he was 62 and I was 35. So the. By the time I was 35, I lost both my parents. And to this, it took a lot of reflection to get to the point that I'm at today. But in the awareness that I have today, I say that my parents died because of the disconnection from their dream.  

Not because. Of overdosing or withdrawing from pain medicine. It was from the disconnection of the dream. So, I am identifying with what you're saying very,very deeply because it is part of why I can't sleep at night. Why I'm so convicted to my message too is because I feel that people.

Need to be reminded that they have permission to dream. So I'm just going to give that back to you and we'll keep going. 

Adam Kasix: This is a life or death situation. 

Becca Powers: It is. I 

Adam Kasix: agree with you. 

Becca Powers: What I'm saying. 

Adam Kasix: isn't just about not belonging in a rat race go in and in seeing traffic jams on the highway.

My son and I, my youngest. is almost 13. So I'm calling him 13 because the year's ending and it's easy when I'm telling people how old all four of my kids are. When I'm in the last quarter, I got two more birthdays to go with these kids. And it's like, I'm just counting them all the next year. So I don't, anyway, he's almost 13.

He's in gymnastics five days a week. We go together and I take him almost an hour South of us. So we're in Tampa Bay area and we go to Sarasota and we get down there. And, on the way there. Every day he sees we counted the miles over 10 miles of gridlock on the northbound side from people leaving Sarasota.

And going back to the Tampa Bay area. And we have these conversations because I'm drilling in him the mindset of a dreamer that has his feet planted on the ground. Because for the long time, I was the dreamer, but my feet were still in the clouds and it took therapy to help me figure out, We gotta come down so we can do some things here.  

Becca Powers: like speaking words that I would use. I love it. So 

Adam Kasix: he sees that. And I told him, I said, not every one of those people. It's supposed to go out and shake the world up and do the dent in the universe thing and, whatever. But, every single one of them has something that they're built for.

 and I tell them, because these are the stats, right? Like, numbers say about 8 out of 10 people wouldn't go back to their job on Monday or the next day. If all things being equal, money was handled their family was secure, like they wouldn't go back to the thing they do to get money from someone else.

And so because of that, that's also a big drive, but that's what we mean about life and death, right? Like Benjamin Franklin, a long time ago said most men die at 25, but wait until 65 to be put in the ground.  

Henry David Thoreau said most men, and these are guys are from past generations, so they didn't say people or women. just said men. They spoke in that first person, masculine. So Henry David Thoreau, like different than Ben Franklin, different character. He was, Henry David Thoreau was like more fruity than me.

Like he was out there and that's why I love him. Yes. Yes. like, if I didn't love family so much, I would be that guy. Just go out there to nature and, just contemplate birds and leaves blowing. But, he said, like, most of us live lives of quiet desperation. and, your parents, it feels like, unfortunately, that went down that road.

We were in that road. So, getting back there, I meet someone. And, you know the, Pursuit of Happiness movie with Will Smith? 

Becca Powers: Yes. 

Adam Kasix: Okay, so there's that part when Chris Gardner's story that the real guy, he's out in front of the Wall Street exchange, and he sees that young dude in the really expensive suit getting in the red Lamborghini.

I think it was a Lamborghini. Maybe it might have been a Ferrari, but right there in the front of the building, and he comes up to him and says. He's all in his brown wool suit, not looking sexy whatsoever, but he had the guts to go up and say to the guy, two questions. He said, two questions for you. And the guy's like, yeah, what he goes, what do you do?

And how do you do it? If I would have had that mindset at 2021, 22, 23. Anywhere in there, mid twenties. I probably wouldn't have started shooting morphine in the mornings after work before going home to my toddler. Like, maybe. But, I'm not blaming anybody, this is my path. So, I meet this guy named Don, and Don served as that guy with the Lamborghini, but it wasn't flash like that.

It was just a guy that I could look to and say, he's, wow, that, that. Like, I don't wanna be him, but something like that. And so Don, Long and short, he was my guy who helped me transform some things. And this is what I wanted to bring to some of your people today. And that is this concept. And it wasn't his idea either, but he taught it to me.

And it's this concept of define, learn, and do. Have you heard that in those three words like that before? I have not good because to me in my head, it's become so ingrained that I think everybody knows about it, but that goes to the delusion of our own perceptions. 

Becca Powers: So, but I'm going to pause you. Yes, please.

I want the listeners to pick that up define learn do right. 

Adam Kasix: That's it when I go to. When I speak at academies for kids that go down, I speak to as young right now on a public arena to as young as 10, 11 years old. So almost 6th grade if they're smart, right? 10 years old, but 6th grade and so up through high school.

And we're talking like, I coach 50 and 60 year olds as well in different capacities. So, I say it's the same thing, but for the kids, I frame the conversation as. Yeah. Who wants to know the formula for happiness? Cause that's what Don taught me. The formula for happiness for big, sexy people with big jobs.

Like would say like, this is the life fulfillment plan, right? Like this is your recipe for wholehearted soul blossoming. It's all the above. You define clearly what you want, not what you need, what's got to pay the bills, what you need out of your desperation to get your rent paid. Oh, Lord, please help me the light bill this month.

Like, that's so weak and powerless. It's not even funny. And it's a shame to who you were born to be. It's shaming true intention that's inside you. Right? So you define what you want. You get clear on that. In my program, my three step collapsible stuff, I have, that first step is done by a tool that I call Radar.

And we don't need to get into all the minutiae of the teaching today, but it's a self coaching, self awareness accelerator. I needed a way that when I wasn't with my VA therapist after Afghanistan, learning about cognitive behavioral stuff, and exposing myself to the shit that was scaring the hell out of me, that I was crying every time I'd go to write.

Like, I needed her to tell me these things. In, in that world, I couldn't always get to a therapist. And how many friends do we really trust when we're in a dark place that has the schools or the nonjudgmentalness or the tools? the empathy, even the understanding to hear something when your stuff is way darker than anything they've touched.

I tried that before and I freaked 'em out and they didn't come back around like. This is real friends. I had an anxiety attack around a guy that I was friends with for 15 years, and he said I couldn't come back around his restaurant anymore because it freaked people out. That was when I discovered paranoia for the first time.

I had to define, right, and define radar. Radar, I like to say that it helps you do all these things. You can be your own coach without another therapist, your neighbor's opinion, or smashing another beer for my veteran brothers and sisters. Or anybody else. But that's some of the language we use. So we get from there.

Radar helps get clarity on that. It helps stop the bleeding. my nursing days. It helps and and get stable and th the moment that we're in have going on instead of like started getting ahed or your fitness or maybe going good and you're lik And you're like, something always comes up if you're saving a pattern 

Becca Powers: in you and you're like, I did it again.

Yes. 

Adam Kasix: So radar radar fake blip blip. It's going to catch it all over time as we practice with iteration effects. Right? So the 2nd, 1, 

Becca Powers: you have that in your book, just out of curiosity, or all 

Adam Kasix: of these, all of the frameworks will be in the book that is not published yet. So, but they're all going to be in 

Becca Powers: there, everything, 

Adam Kasix: everything that I ever mentioned will be a resource in the book for complete free download.

I'll probably ask you for your email so I can keep in touch with you and throw you more crap like that. Because people who are interested in these, like me, we're not always the most proactive and going out to get more of those are asking the resource for more until we get comfortable. Right?

But. Anyway, that's step 1 out of the 3 

Becca Powers: love it. Love it. So let me ask you another question. 

Adam Kasix: Slow down a little bit. Yeah. 

Becca Powers: No, no, no, no. It's all fabulous. okay. So we talked a little bit about your back story and we've also talked about. in that there's been like the natural arc of what you've had to overcome, but I always like to help the listeners turn their set back into success.

That's kind of 1 of my themes. So what would you say? Is one setback, like, if you had to, like, share with the listeners one setback or that you've turned into a success or a concept that you've learned from turning your setbacks to success. But I would love you to share something with the audience in that narrative of setback to success from your own life.

Adam Kasix: I appreciate the articulation. And because while you were doing that, the most natural synchronicity segue, you handed to me. That literally is the step two. that I can easily shape or tell you the story that fits it because this next part was born out of the answer to that question. 

Becca Powers: Oh, that's beautiful.  

Adam Kasix: that's my combat experience with the army. Sohad 12 years. when I left nursing, by the way, I had mentioned that I destroyed everything right with the wife and that my twenties I used to basically destroy myself to like ground zero. Like, what does that volcano 

Becca Powers: of the D is it's like, depression, divorce, that drug.

Yeah. Okay. Everything. 

Adam Kasix: Yep. So that culminated, but after I meet Don, and I start defining and learning and doing, by the way, learning from someone who's. Been there has the expertise can help. have fruit on the tree, right? They're not just talking through theory. They know they've been there. They can get it.

And then you go do what they're recommending. That was a define, learn do piece. So the 2nd part is literally the learning part and I had to apply it. Never believe it or not what you're seeing today by the grace of God in my faith. I'm telling you, like, Mhm. Overcoming post traumatic stress and getting back to a normalcy of function as a husband, a dad, a guy in my own skin.

Okay, trying to just do his thing, myself as an individual. Nothing was as impactful as having to fight through and determine that I was going to thrive after that occurrence, after those experiences. More so than losing my wife. And having a near death experience from being an IV drug addict while a nurse, this was like this next tool.

I call it revamp your vision because when I got out of the army, I didn't know I had that experience at my buddy's restaurant and then I wasn't invited back, but I had just gotten out of the army 3 months earlier. And I had just gotten back from Afghanistan 9 months earlier. I got out right after I got back.

So I never even did debriefing, psychological debriefing stuff. There was no, like, integration back then. They let the rabid raccoon go right back out into the woods. Just, they sent me right back out there. And,anyway, I get home and that fourth child that I told you about, we go to gymnastics, he's almost 13.

He was born 30 hours after I got off the plane. So, I get off the plane, from combat, he's born. I'm back in Detroit. We're stationed in Kansas. I'm in Detroit with family on leave. And then life, we start life. I had six months more to get out of the army. We did back and forth stuff, but then I get out and then I come to this restaurant and I'm like, Oh, wow.

I started feeling first day. I had an impending doom going on is what was going on. I didn't know. That's what it was. I felt as though the whole world was ending and I was like, gripping the counter. You know, it was one of those moments. So he's like, dude, he called me that night. He's like, Hey, you got to freak some people out.

Can't have you back. And I'm like, yeah. Oh, like I didn't know what happened. So this went on for years. I meet this beautiful woman, Gloria. She was on her retirement stretch at the VA and she was the first person to help me see some of this. But then I meet someone else down in Tampa and they're like, Hey, this is about five, six years ago.

He goes, it was a Marine Colonel. He goes, Hey, when we go over there. What happens when we're fighting over there is that terrorists and this is his words They installed demons in us and then what we don't know is that we come back with them. That's 

Becca Powers: Deep 

Adam Kasix: he goes I said, okay. Okay. He goes this is never gonna change.

You'll always have this This is the way it is best We can do is coping stuff and all this and I let that sit for a little while And then I realized I had already been student of self development. I had already been through all my mentorship with Don. 

Becca Powers: I can't do this.

I go, you know 

Adam Kasix: what? Uh, I reject. I don't know. I don't want that. the one that assigns meaning to the stuff that goes on in my life. I give it the meaning that it has and the meaning then feeds everything else. So we'll get into it. But learning. What Don told me I had to do was learninglearn step this is our learning curve of you to your dreams you today to the vision you might have.

You're going to define what you want. There's your vision, but to go through and learn so you can do you're doing along the way, but you're learning. This is the process of expanding our awareness, right? To learn things we do. I saw you with your coach a year ago, and I know I saw the emotion in your introduction of the man.

He made an impact because he helped you understand like probably some mindset things that made some clarity about how to stop all this sabotage and going backwards so much. Then you can start predicting success forward. It's like, holy crap. So revamp your vision was born in my mornings of walking healing.

And making, after I had made my decision to not live with this, to not survive this, I disrespect the idea of surviving something, unless that's all you have in that moment, because I've been in that phase. If you stay in survival mode in life, you've no longer decide, you're not living anymore. Because you're just surviving.

Becca Powers: I am so glad you said that, because, different paths, but I've had a lot of loss. and all that grieving and foundational loss can get you stuck in survival. And so I also chose. to reject that, I was like, I don't, this is not the life I want for myself. So, but there is something I read maybe just two or three, days ago that I just want to share because I feel like it's in alignment with what you're saying, but I'm 45 years old and it was written by someone else who is 45 coincidentally.

So it says, the, so it says the average, lifespan is 80 years old. And I only have 35 years left and I'm like, I'm tearing now. I'm like, that is powerful. And in the context of what you're saying for the listeners, like, regardless of how old you are, like you only have this much time left, whether it's 10, years, like.

Think about what life could look like, and so your conversations really like stirring that, idea in my head of, the, what if, and like following that dream, because we only have X amount of time left. So, anyway, I just had to share that. It's 

Adam Kasix: beautiful. It's, it's, it's a, yeah, it's a beautiful complimentary note, because I made that decision that I was going to thrive with this So, the revamp your vision was born out of all that, like I said, my writing and the journaling and figuring things out and talking to people and all this stuff. But out of that, too, was the fact that, like, okay, I'm not okay with just getting some VA disability what went on the form of.

Dollars that lose value every day because of something called inflation. And that wasn't a political comment. That's a factual thing that I don't want to rest on X amount of money to come in and feed me at a certain level. When I have these, this conviction that won't let me go and I have to go out and do things and.

Spend this message of hope. Right? And so it came up. I'm like, how can I do it? It became a five day challenge, but it wasn't really five days. It was just an hour every day at lunchtime. And so I call it now a five hour challenge that we can do in five minutes or an hour. But it's gets you started, right?

Because there's day 1 through 5 and it starts out with like. You can't get to where you want to go unless you have a clear destination. Because what it, was it Alice in Wonderland? Was the cat with Alice, like, which way do you want to go? And she didn't know, and he said, well, then anyway, well, what did he say?

Do you know the quote? 

Becca Powers: I don't know, I don't know the quote, but I know what you're talking about. Yeah, 

Adam Kasix: then anyway will do. If you don't have a direction, like, we all get into Google Maps. I 

Becca Powers: think that's actually what it was, then anyway will do, or 

Adam Kasix: something like that. Yeah, anyway will do. Because you gotta get into your Maps app and give it the destination.

you got it, if you're going to get there, you'd never do that aimlessly, but we do that with our life because it's just below our level of awareness. But after radar, it's not 

Becca Powers: yeah. And there's 1 thing. I just want to share with that. Just to kind of like, further embed this. For the listeners is that especially when you start adulting and whether you're coming out of a situation like where you're coming out of the army, or you've been in corporate America 10 years or whatever it is, there's this conditioning that's happened.

That's separated you from your dreams, right? There's a good ahead of me.  there's this thing that's like happening in the conversation with Adam and I, if you're not picking it up, I want you to get it. Is that. You can pick your destination. It's not too late. This condition is truly just a condition and you have the opportunity to change it.

This is what we're talking about. There's this power of your mindset and not just your mindset, but your faith. And in the, whether that. Is a religious faith or a faith in yourself or a faith in just something bigger, the combination of your mindset and the potential and the possibility for it to come true will change your life and add back to you.

Yeah. 

Adam Kasix: that's the kind of real stuff that if somebody has ears to hear that. This literally without being not an ounce of corny or cliche could be the beginning of the rest of the life that your soul has been asking you to live in the form of that little empty feeling of something more is needed here.

Becca Powers: Yes. 

Adam Kasix: That's it. This could be that moment. And I love it. I love It can't happen though, without getting clear on that defined picture. You have to have a definition of something else. And if there's something, Oh, I don't know, follow that. it's begging you to come to it. 

Becca Powers: It's 

Adam Kasix: begging to reveal itself to you, but it's going to make you earn it.

It's going to make you earn it because when you get to the other side where that life gets sweeter, Eric Thomas likes to call it that sweeter side, right? the other side of life. It's not just having more money than you know what to do with or not having worries. I finally understand too, the bunch of money thing, like that's a low level idea 

freedom.

It's a low level idea. 

Becca Powers: It's counterintuitive because when you like follow your passions, you align with your passion, you align with fulfillment, you align with happiness, joy, deep connections in your life, success ends up being, and money ends up being the result of alignment. it blew my mind when I learned that.

And I was like, why do people not know this? Like, why are we chasing success and money? Because to your point, it's low level and it's not fulfilling and it can destroy people, but if you focus on the fullness of life, that is just a natural. That's it. I know we are getting down to the bottom of the 30 and I just, I want to ask you one more question because I want to wrap this up with a bow.

How would this, like taking these concepts, empower the listener's life? Like give them punch in the face, not in the face guys, I'm sorry. Just like, the spiritual punch. 

Adam Kasix: Then pause one quick second because I have the answer. Yeah. 

Ah, so he's showing a hat for those that are watching. You'll see those that are listening. It says, take the step. 

So look, I'll, even switch it until the end of our time. For your listeners, right? Your watchers too. Cause look. You get here by here. Yes, did not plan that. I promise. That's good, though.

I might use it again. You get here. 

Becca Powers: I love the hat change. It's very powerful. You get 

Adam Kasix: here by there. Right? So. what stops a lot of, and I'll, you know, since we are getting close, it's the part that I end a lot of challenges with when I, do it either one on one or even in a group.

And I know your people are not intellectually disagreeing with us. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah, I gotta take that step. How do you get into the light? One of the things that I say during the challenge is only by going into the depths of your own darkness.

Can you find your light? 

Becca Powers: Absolutely true. 

Adam Kasix: it's not my idea, right? Like it's this concept of the treasure you seek. The cave you fear to enter contains the treasure you seek. 

Becca Powers: I love that. 

Adam Kasix: I don't know who that was. It's 

Becca Powers: terrifying you. Yeah, yeah. Boom! It's true. You have to go in. This is 

Adam Kasix: it. You gotta go in.

And you need 

Becca Powers: to go in with like, the intention of getting out. Cause the other thing I see is like, people go in and then they get stuck cause it's dark and scary and they're like, I don't know. No. So, but. Like keep like Adam is saying like keep your mindset strong know where your Destination is because if you go into the cave and your destination is clear You're gonna be able to turn all the lights on you're gonna be able to see your treasure and you're gonna be able to walk Out with that.

So look if we're watching Wizard of Oz the original and we got looking from the Red Bull hot air balloon get ready to skydive from the atmosphere. What are we going to see Dorothy? She's on the yellow brick road. She starts. It's all exciting. The beginning of any New journey is beautiful and exciting.

Adam Kasix: And you got castle in your mind, palace, right? Oz is in your mind, but from above, you can see with maturity because you have a higher level of awareness. When you look down all day, Dorothy is going to go through a dark forest of danger, but it's just a part of it. You guys, it's just a part of it.

It's through it's through the other side. You go through 

Only way out is through 

Becca Powers: If you 

Adam Kasix: don't take the step toward the through which you can with someone like becky in your corner Like you look you're like, yeah, I can go through that. I went through basic training as a kid I went through the nursing hard days and handled them horribly wrong, right?

But You got to go through because if you have something in your heart, I mean, look, there's other coaching things like you got outlines for days, but the bottom line is those, the three structure of define, learn, and do you got my own little tools that resonate our radar, revamp your vision and the seven pillars of revolutionary freedom.

But what does all that do for you? Everybody's got some, any good coach worth their salt has a way for you to maximize where you are. That includes stopping bleeding and sabotage, and you're hurting yourself. Maximize where you are. Then they have a plan to expand you expand your skill set and get sharper in the skills you have.

But then after that it's time to evolve. Because it's perfectly in sync with becoming, with being created as a larva. You're starting. I was a larva after Afghanistan. I had to become, I had to maximize that opportunity and expand into that little caterpillar. And then I, that wasn't enough. What you're seeing now show up today is the evolution and my butterfly wings are getting strong.

Because, like, that is, like, what do you do? You take the step. You have something in your heart that's calling you. Something that's begging you for years. You listen to Becca for, you're probably trying to build up the incremental courage compounding over time to take the step. Well, if my nutso self and her nutso self today combining for some fireworks doesn't get it, Trust us.

Take the step. Uh, freaking, that is like the perfect way to end too. And I feel like I should have you back for a part two because we're just like Um, well, Adam, thank you so much for being a guest on the empowered half hour. I know this is a show that is going to inspire and have people take the step. 

would love to give some of the more practical tools like thought jacking, I have this measurement tool.

I have a measurement tool that allows you to measure yourself on a thousand point scale without becoming obsessive about perfection, because you realize the process is perfection, 

Becca Powers:  That's 

Adam Kasix: right. Awesome. Anyway, we'll have 

Becca Powers: to do a round two, but thank you again. 

Adam Kasix: All the best. Thank you.