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Walking Through the Portal of Possibility with Jennifer Swann, Lawyer and Public Speaker

• Becca Powers • Season 1 • Episode 88

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What does it mean to truly claim your life, even in the face of unimaginable challenges?

In this deeply inspiring episode of The EmPOWERed Half Hour, Becca Powers sits down with Jennifer Swann, constitutional lawyer turned coach for parents and children with special needs. Jennifer shares the transformative journey that led her from isolation and fear to joy, empowerment, and a life full of possibility—for herself and her daughter.

After facing her daughter’s life-threatening neuromuscular condition, Jennifer made a radical choice: she would not let circumstance define her family’s life. Through Disney and Caribbean cruises, musical theater, and daily moments of joy, she discovered the power of mindset, courage, and leaning fully into life even when it seems impossible.

Key Moments You Won't Want to Miss:

  • Jennifer recounts the life-changing moment aboard a Disney cruise that redefined how she viewed her daughter’s—and her own—life.
  • The story of her daughter’s journey into musical theater and how she claims her life despite physical limitations.
  • Becca and Jennifer explore mindset shifts, joy, and empowerment in the midst of caregiving and adversity.
  • A powerful takeaway: “The quality of your life is directly impacted by how much life you’re willing to claim.”

About Jennifer

Jennifer Swann is a constitutional lawyer turned public speaker who has found her purpose and passion in sharing her journey as the mother of a child living with a life-threatening neuromuscular disease.  She shares her insights, 15 years in the making, on her daughter’s superpower of living into her fullest potential, despite the fact that she cannot move, and requires seven machines every day just to stay alive.  Jennifer leverages her many years on stage as a musical theater performer and her passion for personal development to deliver inspirational, heartfelt, and relatable content.  She is widely regarded as a naturally gifted speaker who connects with her audiences by sharing honestly and vulnerably about her own path to empowered living.  Jennifer and her daughter have been featured on multiple prominent local media outlets, including KCAL News and the Voice of OC.


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Becca Powers: Welcome to another episode of the Empowered Half Hour. I am so excited to bring you today's guest, Jennifer Swan. She is. Constitutional lawyer turned coach for parents and children of special needs, and her story's incredible. I've just got to spend the last five to 10 minutes getting to know her. So Jennifer, welcome to the show.

Oh, thank you 

Jennifer Swann: for having me. 

Becca Powers: I'm 

Jennifer Swann: so excited to be here. 

Becca Powers: Yeah, I'm so excited to have you here too. So, during our, pre-talk, we talked about a lot about how you're, you've started making this decision. To, coach parents and children of special needs, and there's a story to it that's near and dear to your life and your heart.

And so I would like to open up there. How did you get to a point of wanting to make this career change and why? 

Jennifer Swann: Well, you know, there's sort of a backstory to the backstory, so I, think I'll start there. Great. 'cause I think that's really, where it all started. So, about 12 years ago I found myself in a pediatric intensive care unit with my daughter.

Wow. And she was three years old at the time. It was her third admission in the ICU that year alone. And I was really feeling, the heaviness of my life at that time. it was really isolating on this journey. our life was so small. My daughter had been diagnosed at nine months old with a terminal neuromuscular condition.

Oh my God. And she had never achieved the ability to sit up or crawl or walk. And at nine months old, we were told that she would lose the ability to swallow, to cough, and to breathe on her own. And eventually would lose all movement and require 24 hour medical care. Wow. Statistically, she wasn't expected to live past the age of two, and so our life got really, really small because, we saw children in our disease community dying from common colds because they couldn't fight it off.

They couldn't cough, they couldn't breathe on their own. So it was really. really a difficult time for us. And, I became super selective about who I let into our little circle because people might bring germs with them and We didn't go out a lot because we didn't wanna expose her to anything.

And if we did go out, it was only in, open spaces where the risk of exposure was really small. And, I remember sitting in that room in the hospital room and I was daydreaming about what would it be like to be experiencing something different right now. And my daughter was a huge Disney fan, I was started thinking about what would it be like to take her on a Disney cruise?

And I started kind of floating the idea with her doctors and they were like, absolutely not. Like there's no way you can do this. It's way too risky. The doctors on the ship won't know what to do if something happens. Her disease is not well known, so they won't know how to manage it. all of them have the same response.

And it was all a hard, no. And, but there was something in me that knew. That we couldn't just, we couldn't live like this anymore. We had to claim a little more life for ourselves. And so we ended up, doing the cruise anyway. And I met a version of my daughter on that cruise that I had never met before.

She was alive and enjoying what was happening and, meeting princesses and, Petting Husky puppies that would later train for the Iditarod. And I was terrified the entire time, especially as we got like farther, 'cause it was an Alaskan cruises. We got farther up the coast and farther away from pediatric hospitals.

I was terrified, but she was alive in a way. I had never seen her before. And she required 24 hour care. She required respiratory treatments throughout the day. And I started asking myself why I was working this hard to keep her alive if I wasn't actually going to let her live. 

Becca Powers: Oh my God. That could have almost make me cry.

Like, that is beautiful. 

Jennifer Swann: It was really a powerful moment for me because I saw in that moment thatit isn't the point to just be here and. Suffer and struggle. It's not the point. And so, I realized that I needed to give her a life, and particularly if she was gonna have a shortened life, I needed to let that life be something she would love.

And so we booked another cruise while we were on that one. And two months later, we went on a Caribbean cruise with her and we started traveling all over with her. And she kind of. Took off with that. Once I loosened the reins, she started making very clear what she wanted in her life, and she's 15 and a half today.

Becca Powers: That's incredible. She's a 

Jennifer Swann: freshman in high school and she lives this extraordinarily fulfilling life. Unlike, I mean, more life than anyone I know, and she does it without being able to move. And or scratch her own itch. it's extraordinary the way she chooses to view her circumstance and live through it.

And that's kind of where it all started. 

Becca Powers: Wow. there's just so much there. But, first I wanna say, like, as a mom, I mean, I almost went into full tears like a couple times sharing your story, and so I really appreciate it because, as a mom, you wanna protect your children, but. To have that epiphany to let them live is such a better, I was gonna say a better way to go through life and what a better experience for your daughter.

So I have like five questions that I wanna ask, but how so how does she view life now? 

Jennifer Swann: so here's the thing about my daughter. Somewhere along the way, she simply decided that she could do whatever she wanted, even if she was disabled. She just, she never, ever made agreement with the idea that her disability meant she couldn't have a life that she loves, and she is always led by joy.

She seeks joy in her life and she doesn't care that she doesn't look the same as everybody else doing it. She is totally willing to be seen exactly as she is and take up space. And let me tell you, she takes up space because she can't sit upright. So she's sort of at an incline in her wheelchair.

Stroller. It's five feet long. Oh my goodness. she does musical theater with a caregiver on stage with her. She's been in her high school show choir this year and her color guard this year, and she just lives this completely normal teenage life of, you know, she has sleepovers. She FaceTimes people all the time.

text. She's incredibly social. She literally will meet people out in the community and just be like, hi, you look really nice. Do you wanna FaceTime me? And, and of course she speaks, I shouldn't say of course, like, you know this, but she speaks, but it's not intelligible to people who are not around her.

Yes. So we're translating for her. at school. She has an eye gaze device. Where she uses her eyes to select icons or letters or words on a computer, and it speaks for her, and that's how she communicates at school so that everybody can understand her. But she just, claims her life. she just chooses to not see her circumstance as something that defines what she can do and what she can't do.

 it's a really. Empowering way to go about living. Yeah. 

Becca Powers: and I commend the work that you're doing because like a, you're going to help parents and children who see that limitation like rise and then like what a powerful message. Even just for people who don't have disability, like you said, we were talking in the, pre-recording.

That it's made you live more fully too. Yeah. So, I do wanna just ask a question on that, like, how has it changed the way you perceive life? 

Jennifer Swann: So, it's funny because, she's 15 and a half now, anddidn't really recognize for myself until last year that, I wasn't claiming the life that I wanted.

Wow. I had sort of had these like little milestone moments along the journey where I let myself do a little bit more than I had been doing. when she was diagnosed, I immediately quit my job and I wasn't working at all, and I was her primary caregiver and I. at that time, because we didn't expect her life to be very long at all, I sort of saw it as like well, this is just the period of time.

This is the phase of my life where I'm doing this. And then as years went by, I was like, well. Maybe this is going to be a little longer than I thought, and maybe I should do something I would love too. So I went back to work very part-time and then later I started doing karate with my son and I earned a black building in karate in my mid forties.

That's very cool. So I doing little stuff, But it was never, I had just kind of resigned myself to the idea that. Well, this is what it is. And as long as I'm in this role, as long as I'm in this circumstance, I can't have more than that. There's no way to create the space for that to happen.

There's no way I can bring anything more to life. And then last fall, I really had an awakening around that, which kind of shook me to the core because. How she was living her life was so obvious to me, but I couldn't see that. I wasn't living that same way. I was all in for supporting her in that, but I was not all in for supporting myself in that.

And that's when I really decided, no, I'm meant to do more. And I really found my calling in that moment. and it was so powerful because it 

Becca Powers: beautiful. 

Jennifer Swann: it's just shocking how you can see somebody else doing something and recognize what's happening there, but not apply it to your own life. So yeah, be 

Becca Powers: like, whoa.

So yeah. What would you say is, an aha or a lesson learned for you right now through all of this awareness and, 

Jennifer Swann: you know, I think that the biggest lesson that I've learned. All of this is that we get to decide for ourselves how we will experience any circumstance. 

Becca Powers: I love that 

Jennifer Swann: so much. 

Becca Powers: Like air fire, full stop.

And you know, I say that too, like this is so on time for me because, my audience has probably heard me talk about it maybe more times than they wanna hear, but it's just true. And what's going on for me? my brother passed away, March last year, and I'm now the sole survivor of my family.

And so, you know, I'm 46, I have a husband, I have four kids, so I've got this whole thing and it's really easy, kind of like how you're alluding to, to get stuck in the narrative of like, well, this is now my circumstances. And so like. I can take the identity of being orphaned or, I could take the identity of being sole survivor of my family, but I am like, no, like, no.

I choose to live. Like I choose to embody them. As I go forward, I choose and it's like just that choice to live. Like I feel it in my bones and in my veins, you know? I'm like, no, I.don't care if it looks weird on the outside if people think I should be crying when I am out. Go. I just went on a cruise two weeks ago, so it's funny that like at this I'm gonna go do something that I wanna do.

 yeah. But it's so refreshing to take it is taking your power back. But it's like taking your, joy back, your freedom and. it's just really powerful. So I appreciate you sharing everything that you're sharing. And I don't know if you wanna add it to anything I just said. If not, we can move on to another question.

But 

Jennifer Swann: yeah,I would just say that I think that, as long as we are being breathed right by some power, then there's more for us here, there's more for us. And we have to claim it. We have to claim it. And that's one thing my daughter does is she leans in fully to what she would love and. she doesn't look at what she can't do.

She looks at what she can do. And even if it doesn't look the same as everybody else, you know, you're talking about your grief journey, not looking the same. 

Becca Powers: Yeah. 

Jennifer Swann: Who cares? Who cares what other people think? there has to be a point at which we say, no, I get to decide for myself how I'm gonna do this.

Yes. 

Becca Powers: And that's like, that's why I wanted to like kind of talk about that more because. I wanna encourage the audience. Regardless what you're going through, you get to choose, you know? Yeah. And I think that's such a powerful message. And I was reading your, bio and there was something in it that really stood out for me.

Oh, the, limits are an illusion, like that is incredible and goes with the theme of everything you're talking about. But like, tell me more about like, why did you come down to like that phrase? 

Jennifer Swann: Yeah, so that's the name of my coaching curriculum. It's called Living Proof Limits are an illusion. And, it just for me embodies how my daughter has chosen to view her life.

Because when you find yourself in a situation that maybe you don't prefer, you didn't lose all your power just because you're in the situation. And in fact, that is the opportunity to really, really lean in. To your power and decide for yourself how you're gonna navigate it, and the idea that limits are an illusion for her.

it was about five years ago, shortly before COVID, she told me she wanted to do musical theater. And I was like, you're like, okay, okay. and I would never, I mean, if it can be arranged. We're gonna facilitate that for her, right? Like, I'm not gonna be carrying her onto roller coasters with her ventilator.

That's not gonna happen. But musical theater, we could figure that out. So I started calling around and found a, a children's theater group that had an accessible stage, and they were okay with a caregiver being on stage with her. And they were okay with the fact that she couldn't, you know, she can sing to the best of her ability.

She can't move. But here's the thing. We would go to rehearsals. And we'd be up there and the choreographer would be moving everybody around on stage and she literally, at one point she was like, this choreography is so confusing. And I'm like, wow. Like she's not moving. She's literally not moving. But in her head, she is participating just like everyone else.

She is just as important as everyone else on that stage. And she's willing to be seen. 

Becca Powers: That is 

Jennifer Swann: incredible. and so that's what I mean, like it's all in our head. All of it's in our head. ' cause we literally can just decide we're gonna make this what we want it to be and what it can be for us. Because at the level of fact, she cannot be up there moving herself on the stage and doing the dance moves.

But she's decided. Yes. I may not be up there by myself, but I can be up there with someone else and I can still 

Becca Powers: be, and I can do 'em in my head feeling this and I 

Jennifer Swann: can feel like 

Becca Powers: I'm doing them. and to your point, she really does feel like she's doing them. So who are we to sit there and say, why is she on stage?

No girl. Like you go on stage, you get your experiences. Yeah. That's awesome. 

Jennifer Swann: Yeah, 

Becca Powers: that and honestly, 

Jennifer Swann: I had to kind of get over. I did the first show with her, so I was on stage the next show a nurse did with her. She's done five or six now. And, I would be in the audience and there was this part of me that was like, what are people gonna say?

And am I gonna sit by somebody who doesn't know that's my daughter? And I'm gonna hear them gossiping about like, yeah, what is she up there for? And, I had to overcome that myself. I had to be willing to let her be seen too. 

Becca Powers: Wow. And I could see that as mom too. Like we have our own limitations, right?

Like she's actually a little bit more advanced on what she can do. She totally hits. You're like, yes. Alright. 

Jennifer Swann: I'll come with you on this journey. Yeah. Yeah. And I just learn from her all the time. I took her to a camp, a dance studio that's doing a summer camp and she didn't wanna do the camp 

 with the disabled kids, she wanted to do the regular camp 'cause they were doing wicked. And we went down there to see if they could accommodate her and get her stroller on the stage and stuff. And they said, we always ask everybody, what's their goal when they enroll in a camp with us or for the summer or whatever they're doing with them.

 she looked at straight in the eye and she said, I want the lead.

And in her mind, there is no reason why she can't have the lead because she's doing it. She's just doing it. That is awesome. Yeah. It's a pretty, powerful way to live. 

Becca Powers: Yeah, 

Jennifer Swann: because it really makes me. Stop and take stock. Because if, here's a child who has lived without being able to move, you know, essentially her entire life, and this is how she's choosing to navigate life, what possible excuse do I have for not showing up authentically in the world and pursuing what I would love when I am fully able bodied?

Becca Powers: Right. And. What is true , if all of that is possible for her with the physical limitations that she truly has, what is truly possible for us who hold purposely, hold ourselves back because of fear and fear of judgment and all the different aspects that go in, like what is truly possible for humans?

Like that absolutely is just like absolutely where my mind's going from this conversation. so I wanna ask you another question. Like, if someone was to embrace this concept, like how would it change your life? Like, how would it empower their life? 

Jennifer Swann: So one of the, kind of downloads that came to me when I was developing my curriculum is around the idea that whatever circumstance you're facing in your life, that.

is maybe a circumstance you don't prefer. Maybe it's a job loss, maybe it's a diagnosis. Maybe it's someone else's diagnosis. Maybe you're a caregiver. Whatever it is, it's a portal. If you view it as a portal and you're willing to walk through it with an open mind, ever expanding, opportunities and possibilities will be revealed to you, and your greatest gifts will be unveiled.

These circumstances that we find ourselves in, they are meant to grow us. They are meant to evolve us, but we have to allow them to do that. So it takes a little bit of a leap of faith to walk through it with that mindset because. You gotta take off your victim hat. Yes. You gotta take, you know, you can't, play the victim anymore.

You can't pretend that you're stuck there. Yeah. You gotta actually be willing to move so 

Becca Powers: much of what you're saying. And that was, it's also kind of like where I was going with like, my mindset of how I'm handling, my debrief is like, you could have taken, and I'm using the word identity, just so it's easy to understand the identity of a, mom who has a child with.

Severe limitations and lived her life and your life that way, and it would look completely different than the life you're living today. Had you, it would assumed the victim size of that, you know what I mean? Like what you're just saying? Yeah. Like, wow. And so like in this conversation, you're giving people permission to remove that layer and truly look like what is possible.

When you stop doing that, anyway, I just get so excited for conversations like this so you can continue. But I was thinking about what you were putting down. 

Jennifer Swann: Well, and I just, when I think about what our life looked like then and what it looks like now, she was in and out of the hospital.

All the time in her toddler years, for two or three weeks at a time, she'd be in the hospital. And that was when we were living small. That was when we were, Not leaving the house and being very careful about who we led into the house. And we were hardly living any kind of a life at all. And we did have her trached when she was four. Before then she was on a BiPAP for support. It's sort of like A-C-P-A-P. and she just had a mask and I think that that helped stabilize her medically. But, she has not been hospitalized since she was. Three and a half years old. Oh, that hospitalization before we took the cruise was her last hospitalization.

No. For illness, 

Becca Powers: I am blown away. 

Jennifer Swann: And so you look at like where we were, I mean, I can just see my, I can feel the, foldable chair. I was laying in daydreaming about a Disney cruise in the hospital room. And then, this January we flew to Hawaii with her. And I have a video of her parked in front of, kill Away A Volcano while it's erupting.

No, that is so cool. I mean, how many people without disabilities get to see a volcano erupt? That's pretty cool in and of itself. But to think about going from the spot where you're just living this super tiny contained, isolated, really kind of, I don't know. It was sad. It was a sad.

Period for us, as my comfort zone grows, we get to do more and more expansive things. And it is worth saying that, I have a lot of support in this. Like she, the amount of medical equipment we have to carry just to travel with her requires three adults.

Alone. so there is, and that's actually part of my curriculum, is calling in your village. Oh, and if you don't think you have a village, you're wrong because people always wanna help. People always wanna help and you should let them be of service. So it's about calling in your village and building an even bigger one for whatever you're trying to bring in next.

Becca Powers: But well, 

Jennifer Swann: let's talk, there's more life out there. Let's 

Becca Powers: talk about that, because I know we have maybe like. Eight minutes left or something like that. so now you've created curriculum to help other people. Let's talk a little bit about what does that curriculum look like and how are you serving people now?

Jennifer Swann: Yeah, so it's called the Flourish method, and each letter stands for a step in the process, so it's an eight step process. I'm coaching special needs parents and caregivers on that curriculum now, and I'm also developing a course for it, which will be out sometime in late summer. which I'm super excited about because I think there's a perception, a particularly if you're early in diagnosis and you're really still trying to stabilize the new normal, it can feel very overwhelming and like, I can't commit to being somewhere at a particular time every week.

But if you have a course, it's. You could do it when it's convenient for you. so it's really about the first step is about building the foundation because, so many times when we're in a caregiver role that could just be a parenting role too. It doesn't even have to be a caregiving, someone with a medical need or a behavioral need.

 we don't prioritize ourselves. And over time, that really wears down our mental health, our emotional health, our physical health. Yeah. And if you stay on that path long enough, you do crash and burn like that is the only possible outcome. And so the first, pillar of it is really about just let's stabilize the systems.

Let's prioritize ourselves. Let's get the support that we need. Let's accept help because in the caregiving community. It's my perception, and I know I experienced this for myself, people start saying to you, wow, I can't believe everything you do. And wow, how do you handle all of that? And 

Becca Powers: Oh yeah. 

Jennifer Swann: And I actually have two special needs kids.

So it's, the other one doesn't have a medical condition, but you get a lot of accolades about, wow, how do you manage all that? And it can sort of be like, well, thank you very much. And yet, in reality. You are not really taking care of yourself. That's how you're managing it, because you've sacrificed some part of you to do it.

Becca Powers: Understood, 

Jennifer Swann: and so accepting help from people and acknowledging that I am not super human. I really would love the support system here. So that's the first part of it. And then it's the mindset shift around No, we're gonna, we're gonna be out of victimhood We're gonna claim what is available to us in the circumstance, and we're gonna claim it today.

Every circumstance we navigate from today forward, we're gonna claim the opportunity and the possibility, not the limitation. We set down the limitation. And then it moves through. one of my curriculum, steps is about reclaiming joy in your life. And I have, a matrix, it's called the Joy ability Matrix, and it basically teaches you to stay in the quadrant of the matrix where you are having joy, where you experience joy.

whether or not you're good at it, whether or not you're good at it, because that's really what, like if we're not here to enjoy life, like what is the purpose? 

Becca Powers: Yeah. What is the purpose? Don't much Yes. To that. I love everything that you're saying. I'm a big advocate in all my work too.

Is like, running towards passion, running towards joy. Like lean into it. Like there's this big, beautiful life out here. Like touch it, feel it, taste it, experience it. not that people say I live in like in the clouds, but like I've always just felt that even as a kid, and so I've always been a little more risk taking, a little more daring, a little bit more exploring because yeah, there's this great big life out there.

for everyone. For everyone, I'm like, if not for people who 

Jennifer Swann: aren't, yeah. 

Becca Powers: Yeah. If I just stay safe and in my little bubble, like again, regardless whether. There's disability involved or not. I have seen, within my community, families like you and your daughter that are outliving and I have seen people who have the choice to live and can do it freely because of their bodies and the finances.

Yeah. And they're living caged in their world. And it's so crazy, like how you said, like so much of it just is within our minds. And within our limitations or within how we view possibility forgetting? 

Jennifer Swann: Yeah. So the rest of the curriculum is just about the steps to build. How do we build this, what do we need to do?

And especially it can be a little unique because we do need more support Sure. In the special needs journey. we need special things. Like I have an FAA exemption for my daughter to fly because she can't sit upright. So there's steps we need to take in the special needs community.

But, yeah, it's all about the critical part of it is shifting the mindset. 'cause if you can't shift the mindset. You're not gonna do the rest of it. So, and it's true for all of us, whatever circumstance we're in, it starts with your mindset. 

Becca Powers: So it really just oozes outta you. But I have to ask like, why are you passionate about this work?

 

Jennifer Swann: I have absolutely no doubt that my daughter and I made an agreement to live this life together in this way. Same thing with my son. we made an agreement for this and that, they are here to teach me. and what I'm being taught is so powerful. and I, wanna share it because it's just, can completely transform the way that you are approaching your life.

And, particularly the tough circumstances. 

Becca Powers: Yes. 

Jennifer Swann: Because we all face them at some period of time and we get to decide how we're gonna navigate it and how we're going to experience it. and that's really empowering. 

Becca Powers: It is so empowering and it just makes me think I refer to a lot of what you're talking about as, our radiance.

Like I feel like we are all like uniquely given gifts, even if they show up in as disabilities, you know, we are giving gifts Yeah. And, and uniquenesses to shine and to help other people shine. And I'm like, what if, in my crazy idea, what if we leaned into those things? S more than we leaned into like the societal molds, 

Yes, yes. How different could life be? And so like, as you're sharing, like why you're passionate about it, I'm like feeling my heart racing like, me too. 

Jennifer Swann: Me too. Yeah. and a lot of it is about societal conditioning. I can remember conversations and honestly my own thoughts too about like, what kind of quality of life was my daughter gonna have?

Sure if she couldn't move and she required a ventilator and couldn't do anything for herself, but I have my answer. Yeah, she's looking great. I have my answer. If I get out of her way, she's gonna have a great quality of life. 

Becca Powers: That's just incredible. And she does well. We're winding down. So let's go ahead and share with the audience how they can stay in touch with you.

Where can they find you, and all that beautiful information. 

Jennifer Swann: Yeah, so we are on TikTok and Instagram at Diagnosis Magical. And that's, a lot of our sharing my daughter's journey in all these crazy ways. She lives out in the world and claims life for herself. And then I do have a website coming up. I don't know when this will air exactly, but my website will be out in the summer and it's Jennifer Wan.

I know it'll 

Becca Powers: probably be on the other side of your website being out. So go ahead. Okay. 

Jennifer Swann: So Jennifer Swan, S-W-A-N-N coaching.com. 

Becca Powers: That is awesome. Well, Jennifer, like thank you for coming on. Thank you for sharing your story. one last question for you before we wrap up, and it's more of a statement.

What's an empowering statement that you could leave for the audience? 

Jennifer Swann: How about the quality of your life is directly impacted by how much life you're willing to claim? 

Becca Powers: Hmm. Love it. I got the goosebumps. Oh my God. Well, thank you so much for being a guest on the show. I absolutely adored our interview.

Thank you.